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	<title>Comments on: Vista Annoyance &#8211; Close programs to prevent information loss</title>
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		<title>By: itsme</title>
		<link>http://www.emphess.net/2008/03/27/vista-annoyance-close-programs-to-prevent-information-loss/comment-page-1/#comment-1695</link>
		<dc:creator>itsme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 04:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sure that you must have figured this out a long time ago, but you need a page file of some sort.  Many people mistakenly think they can improve performance by eliminating the paging file.  You can keep it small, but you need to have one.

WHY?  Because the page file is used for more than paging.  It&#039;s also used as a backing file for modified memory.  In a nutshell (and I&#039;m simplifying here), windows must be able to write any piece of memory to a file, and YOU CANT STOP IT. If you have a page of memory that was read in from an executable program and one of those pages has changed, Windows must have some place to write the changed copy of the file.  If the page hasn&#039;t changed, it can just read it from the disk again.  If it has changed, Windows will at some point write that page to a disk file.  Windows can do this at any time up until that program terminates.

When it writes any changed pages to a disk file, where does it write them?  The page file.  It&#039;s not intuitive, but it&#039;s what happens.  It&#039;s a little bit different than the way you normally think of memory being paged.

Even when you turn the page file off, this is still happening behing the scenes.

To accomplish what you are looking to do, look for the Microsoft dynamic cache update.  It will help clear up the dysfuncitonal caching algorithms in 20003/vista/2008.  Read the directions 10 times.  There are some subtle things in there that if you don&#039;t follow them exactly, the update does nothing for you.  Best to just allocate the cache once across the board instead of on a per application basis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure that you must have figured this out a long time ago, but you need a page file of some sort.  Many people mistakenly think they can improve performance by eliminating the paging file.  You can keep it small, but you need to have one.</p>
<p>WHY?  Because the page file is used for more than paging.  It&#8217;s also used as a backing file for modified memory.  In a nutshell (and I&#8217;m simplifying here), windows must be able to write any piece of memory to a file, and YOU CANT STOP IT. If you have a page of memory that was read in from an executable program and one of those pages has changed, Windows must have some place to write the changed copy of the file.  If the page hasn&#8217;t changed, it can just read it from the disk again.  If it has changed, Windows will at some point write that page to a disk file.  Windows can do this at any time up until that program terminates.</p>
<p>When it writes any changed pages to a disk file, where does it write them?  The page file.  It&#8217;s not intuitive, but it&#8217;s what happens.  It&#8217;s a little bit different than the way you normally think of memory being paged.</p>
<p>Even when you turn the page file off, this is still happening behing the scenes.</p>
<p>To accomplish what you are looking to do, look for the Microsoft dynamic cache update.  It will help clear up the dysfuncitonal caching algorithms in 20003/vista/2008.  Read the directions 10 times.  There are some subtle things in there that if you don&#8217;t follow them exactly, the update does nothing for you.  Best to just allocate the cache once across the board instead of on a per application basis.</p>
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		<title>By: Arthur Penn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arthur Penn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 11:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had this problem too, but the resolution turned out to be interesting: http://devarthur.blogspot.com/2008/07/vista-page-file-in-netherworld.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had this problem too, but the resolution turned out to be interesting: <a href="http://devarthur.blogspot.com/2008/07/vista-page-file-in-netherworld.html" rel="nofollow">http://devarthur.blogspot.com/2008/07/vista-page-file-in-netherworld.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Scott Bussinger</title>
		<link>http://www.emphess.net/2008/03/27/vista-annoyance-close-programs-to-prevent-information-loss/comment-page-1/#comment-90</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Bussinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 18:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like you, I have a 4 GB Vista machine with virtual memory disabled. I do all my development in virtual machines which use lots of memory and use IE7 and Outlook. I&#039;m seeing this warning message a lot.

Like you, it seems like there&#039;s still a fair bit of memory available at the time in the system. I thought perhaps it was just my machine, but it&#039;s got to be something about running Vista with virtual memory disabled.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like you, I have a 4 GB Vista machine with virtual memory disabled. I do all my development in virtual machines which use lots of memory and use IE7 and Outlook. I&#8217;m seeing this warning message a lot.</p>
<p>Like you, it seems like there&#8217;s still a fair bit of memory available at the time in the system. I thought perhaps it was just my machine, but it&#8217;s got to be something about running Vista with virtual memory disabled.</p>
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